Both sides skew the polls. It's the old saying, "figures lie and liars figure". So, if both sides are lying about the poll numbers and 90% of the media is under Liberal control, which way are they skewed the most?

"Liberal control"?

The majority of media isn't "liberal," it's corporate. It's about making money - not informing you. That's not to say nothing the corporate media reports on is true - but it's not their main goal.

If you want real "liberal" media, you'd need to turn to independent viewer & listener supported outlets. Otherwise, the corporate advertisers really call the shots.

It's discouraging to hear the "liberal media" BS parroted. Thirty years of daily repetition from Limbaugh, I guess.

Only polls you agree with are accurate, got it Flashy.
Not many accurate polls left, just Faux News and the GOP's personal poller, Rasmussen.

Ops, Faux news has Obama beating Romney everywhere too.
Rasmussen better ask for a raise, they are the last one siting out on a limb for Romney....

Here you go News Flash, Fox must be telling the truth right? Here's a Fox poll. http://www.examiner.com/article/new-fox-news-poll-released-thursday-shows-obama-winning-3-key-swing-states

Mike:

I understand the Romney campaign has hired Baghdad Bob as their new press secretary. And suddenly, Romney is polling at 110% and President Obama at -66.6%.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

Obama leading in Massachusetts. Wow that's a shocker you uncovered Mr Healey.

By 23 points?
He is not leading, he is crushing!

Yup, he's losing in the states where the people know Romney best and don't trust him as their leader.

Massachusetts is one of the most liberal states in the US. The Michigan polls only proves the Conservative point. The Liberal politicians support the public unions because the public unions support the Liberal polititians. So, you end up with working Americans that don't have pentions paying for the pentions of public employees. By the way, Obama did not "save the auto industry". He bailed out the unions by making thier benifits whole. He did not do the same for the non-union employees. Romney would have put the auto manufacturers through a controlled bankruptcy which would have had better long term results.

Sean, do the math, what do you think the unemployment rate would be if we let the auto and bank industry go bankrupt. It's a high number and guess who would have to pay that unemployment for all those people? That's right, your taxes would go out the roof in a great depression. Thankfully it was a hard decision but a good bet, the auto industry came back and we made 13 billion profit on the bank loans. Sometimes you have to make hard decisions. How do you know what Romney would have done? He used to be pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-gay marriage, he bragged that Obama coppied his health care law and now distances himself like the plague...seriously you want us to believe you that Romney could be trusted to do what he says? So you dislike the unions because you believe teachers, fire fighters and police make too much money? Canada has lots of unions and lots of regulations on business, trading and banks, and they are doing pretty well! You are just spitting out Fox news talking points. http://current.com/community/93843544_fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada.htm

sonia if you commiecrats could do math and would tell the truth we would be told that the real unemployment numbers are around 11 % and would hear our national debt under obama will increase and it is unsustainable.... hell we might even hear about our second credit downgrade, but the obama media is silent in hopes of getting the master of propaganda a second term to finish destroying America and capitalism

Good for you Jim, you have some comon sense, yes it's high, but we are adding jobs. Do you think it can be done miraculously when the GOP blocks every job bill and wanted to add to that number with the auto industry and the banks? Can you picture that number? Americans gave Roosevelt four terms to fix a mess, why do you think Obama can do it in two. It's impressive that he was able to add jobs 24 months straight without a negative; I figured we'd get a dip here and there and it would be a bumpy road, but so far so good.

Figures don't lie, liars figure.
Spin all you want, whatever you need to do to sleep at night.

It seems the equation is simpler than that.
Romney Leading = Valid Poll
President Barack Obama Leading = Invalid Poll

Fantastic two faced argument.
1.) All this Data should get some magical 5 point deduction to be valid.
2.) If that doesn't put Romney in the lead, the poll should be disregarded all together.

in the last week i have been polled 8 times and disqualified 8 times .always after answering a question that might indicate i might be somewhat conservative . i have been a registered independent for over 30 years so i am polled all the time and this has never happened before ever.

WM, do you know who's polling you? Not all sites or polls are reputable. If you answer you are voting for Ron Paul, I assume they'd knock you off the call.

sonia, age, and income range seemed to disqualify, most polls were from vt.

You do not know what you are talking about. Go back and do some phone dialing.

Rude? Did he call anyone a "typical (color) person"? Drop the F bomb in front of a bunch of kids?
As for taxes, what % of the population pays more in taxes than Romney? Maybe some entertainers and pro athletes...

Seamus, you probably pay more taxes than he does, Romney estimated he paid 13%- 15%, but probably less...not counting the money he hides in Bermuda that he pays zero, wait until the Mormons find out he's lying and that his 10% of his income donation is missing some funds!! He won't show his taxes because he knows corporations made record profits and so did his investments, he knows he's better off than he was 4 years ago and the trickle down theory is a load of you know what.

We have voter ID in NH now. Much tougher for those from other countries like England and Palestine, who are not US citizens, to vote here now.

Secondly, in first week of office President Obama packed up the gift from England of Churchills bust, that was in the Oval Office for many years, and simply sent it back to the English embassy without any explanation. Additionally, he snubbed the English in his first year by not meeting with them. Traditionally, the first country any President meets with is England. Obama went to Cairo to grovel.

Libia LOL. Thanks for capitalizing that. Unless it's another kind of crisis you are referring to.

Salem voter, the voter id fight was about non-existent supposedly acting as dead people to vote twice, but it was found that there never was such a case. Kind of like the laws for opening someone's mail, it's a federal offense so it's not a big problem because the law is harsh. Second, Obama has a great relationship with England and most world leaders....not so for our dear Republican leaders.

Sonia, which President Obama has a great releationship with England?
The President Obama who said France is our "strongest Ally" and that Sarkozy is a stronger friend then Cameron, and thus alienating the British trrops in Afghanastan.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346006/Barack-Obama-declares-France-biggest-ally-blow-Special-Relationship-Britain.html

Or the President Obama who said the UK-US alliance is one of the strongest ever known.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/14/barack-obama-uk-us-alliance

Sonia:

Romney will win in Dixie, in the Red Midwest, and probably most of the intermountain West. You know, all the classical "red" states that take far more from the Federal Government than they return in taxes. You know, "Moochers".

What we need to do now, though, is make sure that Democrats don't become complacent; if the election is close enough to steal (through tactics like True the Vote's voter suppression/voter intimidation), then the Republicans could still win this.

I agree Atlant, making calls, trying to raise money and training new volunteers every day! Working my butt off until the victory is attained and I don't always trust the polls but it sure feels nice. If you feel like canvassing, we are going out every Sat and Sun at 11 AM.

No, airhead, you're so ignorant it's not even funny. Not even worth responding to.

Romney has released 10+ years of tax returns. Between Fed income taxes and charitable giving' he's contributing over 40% to others.

y'alllll welcome.

Dear Seamus, a summary of 8 yrs is not releasing his taxes, it's a summary, no one can look at the details....again, what is he hiding? He asked for ten years of Ryan's tax returns, not a SUMMARY. Remember this fact: John McCain looked at ten years of Romney's tax returns and picked Sarah Palin; did you notice he's the only one who didn't weigh in or comment on this whole tax ordeal?

20 years. 1990 - 2009.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romneys-release-taxes_652850.html

Wow, dear informed olenhgal, who's paying them? I could use some extra income!!

@olenhgal

Check out this story about the Craigslist ads the democrats are running

http://granitegrok.com/blog/2012/09/where-grassroots-can-earn-you-100-00hour

Granite Grok made a fake Craigslist ad? Funny.
They must feel so free to be known as dishonest and not need to be constrained by truth or decency.

@ NF

"Quoting from a BLOG is DUMB!" -- News Flash

Tool.

You're making a baseless assumption. Check in here on 11/7.

The RNC is reportedly shifting money into the House and Senate races, hoping to hold onto what they've got there, but the NYTimes is reporting that the Senate is likely to shift more towards the Democrats than its present position; this is an amazing uptick for the Democrats and wasn't at all expected even a few months ago.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/senate-forecast-what-has-gone-wrong-for-g-o-p-candidates/

DNC Owes Millions to Union-Owned Bank

http://nation.foxnews.com/democratic-national-committee/2012/09/21/free-beacon-dnc-owes-millions-union-owned-bank-records-show

Atlant posts a link to a Nate Silver article? Do you ever think for yourself or do you rely on being spoon fed your next comment? Nate Silver....really? I take that about as seriously as you'd take an article by Sean Hannity.

Democrats are not the ones fumbling their message day after day, showing their true colors of rudeness, greed and disregarding half of the voters in this country. Democrats are not the ones who just pulled out their staffers and money out of New Mexico. Who do you think has lost control and is panicking right now? I"m sure it's not President Obama's political director, but I can't say the same for Romney. They've been in dammage control since Clint Eastwood took the stage.

Yes. Liberals are panicking! The polls show Obama leading, solidifying his lead
in the battleground states since the convention. Polls posted and spun on these pages countless times a few weeks ago by you conservatives to show how Romney
was doing so wonderfully on his way to an election win. Now that those polls show Obama is ahead so those polls must be wrong and a sure sign LIBERALS [!!!!!!!!!!!!]
are panicking!!!!!! DO, You like, Jim should start a comedy show!

lol, what are the percentages? How can you ever know since we don't really know how much Mitt Romney is hiding off shore?

How is any of that at all relevant to this article?

Why do many GOP supporters insist on making these threads a mile-long mess of garbage? It's as though you're intentionally trying to ruin the user experience for others.

I post quite often. But I at least try to make the post relevant - if not to the article directly, at least to a comment made by someone else.

Are you talking about stay-at-home mothers? That's because they are intelligent and know what it takes first hand to raise a child and you can be sure that they won't want their kids to have Mitt Romney as a role model. Cheats, lies, bullies, flip flops, no respect for people with disabilites, special needs, and mental health issues, etc.

Hmmm, that may be because the Republican party is known for scaring the elderly with commercials filled with lies, and the young have access to the internet to be able to fact check and are more educated. As for your stats, the people we talk to every day on the phones or when we knock on their doors say something much different.

You are under estimating the power of the seniors who have saved over $700 each on prescriptions this year because Obama closed the doughnut loop hole that Bush installed for our seniors so the pharmaceuticals would make more profits. You also under estimate all the families who had pre-existing conditions and couldn't buy into group health insurances, you under estimate all the gay community who now can marry and serve openly in the millitary, you under estimate all the women who don't believe that if they or any other child/woman is raped, that they shouldn't have access to the morning after rape kit at the ER becasue Romney/Ryan/GOP don't believe in abortions, nor do they want their rapist to have visitation rights to a child they were forced to give birth to; how about all the hispanic community that was harrassed, even if they were legal, in Arizon and Romney said that we should follow that law everywhere. All these people vote and they will not be voting for Romney

Democrats are underestimating the power of seniors on Medicare whao are about to have the Medicare Advantage program ended even though the President sais "With the Affordable Health care Act If you like your current insurance then you can keep it".
The also underestimate the power of seniors who are getting a meager 1% interest rate on CD savings they rely on for retirement, thanhs to a Fed policy to print money out of thin air, a policy that the President embraces.
For hispanics, perhaps you missed the Presidents interview on Univision when the Hispanic interviewer called him on the carpet for breaking promises on immigration reform and refused to accept his lame excuse.

Any decent advisor will tell you to take the penalty and place your money elsewhere. CD's are not good right now. Maybe they need people to help them move their money to an IRS.

Sonia, in your post you say seniors should move there money to an IRS. The IRS? You want them to pay more in taxes?
I think you meant IRA. So, you want them to invest in the stock market. You want them to invest in the evil Wall Street with no guarentee of return? You do realize that they will only have to pay 15% in taxes on the eranings from their investments. Thats a good thing right, only 15%

The American people gave Franklin Roosevelt four terms to fix the great depression; I'm pretty sure they'll be open to giving Obama a second term to fix the mess that Bush created! Please show me the article that shows that so many Democrats left the party! Tell that to Olympia Snowe and many other Republicans who quit because of the Tea Party and new radical Republicans. Please, whatever article you quote, it can't come from Fox news. http://current.com/community/93843544_fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada.htm

It's pretty cut and dry to know what Romney cares about and it's not the American people or our allies. It's an easy decision for most families.

Dumpy is pulling out the ever popular, don't believe what you see, meme as Romney campaign implodes

Figures don't lies, Liars figure. Keep spinning Flashy

LOL, you've obviously never worked a great campaign. Maybe you should volunteer, learn how the system works, go door-to-door, get some of your own data and then you can decide. Romney says dumb things, obviously that's going to affect things... or make lots and lots and lots of people very angry.

Romney also said he was pro-choice, pro gay marriage, and pro-environment.... changes with the weather.

"Strong" Romney has been hiding from swing states for the last week, or is that weak....

Dumpy predicts the future, poorly like every thing else he does

Dear anonymous who has big talk but hides behind the name "dump obama", I'm going by my own stats and the stats of my friends who talk to many many many voters every day. I cannot predict the future and we really don't use the polls as any true indicator, but I can tell it affects and scares you. Glad to see that you and some Republicans think they can predict the future; maybe you are rich and can also predict the next lotto numbers?

oh brother, big deal a commiecrat talks to a bunch of other commiecrats and gets all the ''stats'' it needs to form a commiecrat opinion

Dumpy isn't old enough to vote.

Keep posting that 4 day old poll while it still favors Romney.

That is a geat post. It says it all. If the Dem's were not so blind

We tell them that the beloved GW Bush spent 1 billion a day that he borrowed from China and did it for 7 years, then we explain that he didn't warn the country that he was loosing 700 000 jobs A MONTH and decided to surprise the next winner for President McCain/Obama. I also tell them that people like you didn't say a word when Bush was giving out stimulus w no stipulations to pay it back but all of a sudden Obama wins and you care about all these topics. We gave Roosevelt 4 terms to get us out of the great depression and you think Obama can get you out in 2? I also explain that there are less informed people like yourself who think that presidents can control global gas prices when they can't. Seriously, you have to turn off Fox. I also explain that corporations made record profits this year which is why Mittens won't release his taxes because he knows he's better off than he was 4 yrs ago and that the trickle down theory didn't work. I explain that Republicans love derugulation and know they can make big profits w the banks then let the middle class pay for the mess when it fails, it happens every 50 yrs. http://current.com/community/93843544_fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada.htm

What could you say?
We have created 4.5 million jobs in this country in the last 29 months and it is projected that we will create 12 million more in the next four years.

You could say that interest rates are at historic lows as well has house prices, the market is on the cusp of recovery.

You could say that Mitt Romney's plan to accelerate the creation of debt just to give himself a raise is irresponsible, and President Barack Obama's balanced approach of cuts and a slight tax increase for those in the top tax bracket will work to actually bring down the debt.

Certainly a thinking person would not consider unrest in the Middle East a new problem, but inform them of Romney's plan to ignore the Middle East is a recipe for disaster.

Gasoline prices have been keep far lower that the $4.17 a gallon George Bush had us suffer under.

And yes, America redistributes. President have any plans to end the progressive tax code, He won't stop redistributing to Medicare, He won't stop redistributing to Medicaid, He won't stop redistributing to Social Security, He won't stop redistributing to the Armed Forces, He won't stop redistributing to cancer research, He won't stop redistributing to caring for people with special needs, He won't stop redistributing to support education, etc.

You could also say that President Obama is borrowing 3.5 billion a day compared to Bush borrowing 1 billion a day.
You could also say President Obama has not signed a Federal budget in 3 years and has managed to increase the debt from 10 trillion to 16 trillion.
You could also say that regulations promoted by Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Barney Frank forced banks to lower credit standards and issue mortgages to people who were on welfare, resulting in the great recession and collapse of housing prices.
Don't believe me about issuing mortgages to people on welfare?
Read "Closing the GAP" an advisory from the Fed to all banks to grant mortgages.
http://www.bos.frb.org/commdev/closing-the-gap/index.htm

Salem voter, you could say that the Republicans ran on jobs jobs jobs, and didn't pass one, including the jobs act that would have helped our veterans. Derugulation is the GOP way, while dumbing down the people by attacking education, giving them lower wages and less safe work environments by attacking unions, keeping them in debt with health care costs and college, and they can deregulate because people are too busy trying to survive...it happens every 50 yrs, we regulate, they deregulate and make millions, the system crashes and the middle class tax payers pay for the mess. http://ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010083426/insanity-after-big-crash-gop-wants-deregulate-again-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4BfW2836Y&feature=share

Sonia, is Harry Reid a Democrat? Is Harry Reid the majority leader of the Senate?
Harry Reid blocked the jobs bill in the Senate for political reasons.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/05/obama-s-jobs-bill-vote-blocked-by-reid-over-lack-of-democratic-support.html

"Barack Obama continued his sales blitz across the country Tuesday, touting his jobs plan and scolding Republicans in Congress more than once to “pass this bill.”
There was only one rather embarrassing problem: his $447 billion proposal was blocked in the Senate—by his fellow Democrats.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid stepped up to stop a vote in the Senate on the president’s measure, which had been requested by an obviously satisfied Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, because both men knew what the president cannot or will not admit— that he does not have enough votes within his own party, let alone from Republicans, to pass the bill he’s been hyping for weeks.
The last-minute move by Reid saved Obama from the immediate embarrassment of losing a battle inside the family, but it highlighted the gulf between Obama and Congressional Democrats, who now operate almost entirely apart from the White House and have, in many cases, decided that supporting their unpopular president today is not worth losing their own jobs next November.

Dumpy, you just said exactly what this guy said on Faux News, are you really Todd Starnes?
WH Silent Over Demands to Denounce ‘Piss Christ’ Artwork
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/wh-silent-over-demands-to-denounce-piss-christ-artwork.html

"Muslim president"? WTF? Read a book. (One that wasn't ghost-written by Glen Beck).

Obama 2012.

You obviously did see Mitt Romney with his spray tan singing the praises of the government assistance his father was on when he came to America from Mexico in front of a Latino audience. Priceless.

Biden gave average of $369 to charity a year

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-12-biden-financial_N.htm

Biden is a bad joke

News Flash, you are probably right about Biden because he also had remortgaged his house so he could loan more money to help pay for his sons' college. Did you think he was rich? His wife and daughter died in a car crash, he went from two incomes to one. You obviously don't know much about him.

Sonia, its tragic that Joe Biden lost his wife and son in 1972. He then remarried in 1977 and they had one daughter born in 1981.

Flashy probably thinks that a life of privilege is the first requirement for public office.

@ Mike

Orange Romney on Univision is one of the funniest things I've seen in quite some time.

It looked like he'd been playing in a giant bag of Cheetos. He was more orange than Bohner.

It goes to show how superficial and condescending he is. It's like he thought "If I can look like one of them, I'll gain their trust."

Nauseating. In the funniest possible way.

Obama 2012.

ha ha, you didn't pay attention to yesterday's info on Romney's tax returns...Romney said he paid 14%, just released yesterdy, which is closer to 12% only for this year because he didn't take all the contribution tax breaks to make his rate match his claims in his speeches.

What a moron.

"if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president."- Mitt Romney

Romney "Allegedly" donated 4 million to his church, not charity.

What someone "claims" on their taxes, is up to them. Only if they are audited would anyone check to see if that "claim" has any basis in reality. Churches use money to do all sorts of things which wouldn't be considered charitable. The Mormon's spent a fortune supporting Prop 8 in California, not very charitable behavior.

Twana Blevins?

Mitt Romney is still hiding his tax returns. Still.

"When asked Friday, the campaign would not provide any comparison of taxes paid to total income for the 20 years covered by the statement from the accountants. It also would not disclose what percentage of total adjusted gross income over the 20 years was paid in federal income taxes." http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/21/news/economy/romney-tax-history/index.html

But since Romney has never had to work for a living, he spends his waking hours discovering new ways to cheat the system.

Obama pays the same federal tax rate as Romney. Maybe it will sink in if I say it that way..

@ NF

Not true. Got proof? Cough up a link.

Didn't you know? George Soros. George supports all of us. He just bought me a BMW.

Actually, NF, President Obama's money has come mostly from book sales, which you could have found out via any search engine in less time than it took you to post that inane question.

@News Flash - Hopefully "Obama job creation" will kick in soon, because as of now, each youth is on the hook for around $52,000 to pay back their "fair share" of the national debt.

Hi ho! Hi ho! Its off to work we go...we hope...

"Quoting from a BLOG is DUMB!" -- News Flash

Tool.

Exactly, and we pay a 700% mark up for that service because Blue Cross Blue Shield has to make their 13 billion somewhere! Just like Romneycare, Obamacare will bring down prices, especially once the Affordable Care Act website goes live in 2014, where insurance companies are begging to get on to sell, in order to get a pieces of that large amount of people (group) even if it means a smaller percentage of profit, because the sheer size of the group will bring them tons of $$ in sales and people will get a better deal for their health care services. Everyone's happy! ...well everyone except the top percent of Blue Cross Blue Shield who won't be getting enormous bonuses at the benefit of sick/dying people. Once the website goes live, jobs will no longer have their foot on your neck to keep you working under bad conditions or at a job you hate because you can't risk losing your healthcare. Individuals will now have control and choices about their health care, not their employers. Are you really naive to think that people will get good care after their heart attacks? They practically throw you out the door as soon as possible because they want to open up a bed to make extra money! Also, are you so naive that don't you think that person would be better off with preventative care to prevent going to the ER w a heart attack, or do you think their hearts will be better for it after a heart attack and anything can be fixed?

This is how Los Angeles takes care of it Debra, yeah, great care!
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-2823079.html

Sorry Debra, I think we may actually agree, wasn't sure what tone to take the last sentence of yours... I take back what I said below...

@Sonia Prince - This "Obamacare", is going to be run with same spectacular level of fiscal governance and efficiency as what other federally mandated program that we've all come to know and love?

Great post, Sonia. Too bad it's a losing proposition to over 40% of the population, who finds it easier to understand when you say the word "socialism." It brings to mind the Cold War, James Bond films, and the red scare. Unfortunately, a lot of our population is downright stupid and incapable of critical thinking. It involves reading, researching, and learning, which is just too much effort compared to looking up in their Bibles how old the earth is and whether or not you need healthcare. After all, if you have a heart attack, praying to Jesus is considered perfectly good medicine to a great many people- especially down south, where being ignorant is a badge of honor.

It's just sickening to see people using Christianity to manipulate people into suffering. If you disagree with Republicans, then you don't like Jesus or something. That's how they get them. How do you fix that? It takes generations of education and growing up, and it's just not happening when the leadership down there beat people over the head with the Bible to keep them down.

Dear Joe, do you mean the great experiences I've had so far with private companies, like being double billed by my hospital after the birth of my child and neither the insurance company and hospital could figure it out? They harassed me and my new baby for 2 years. We finally got a lawyer and they ended up owing us $800 of overpayments we had made. Or do you mean the time that my insurance company kicked out my child's well child visit immunizations? I had to fight over the phone twice for an hour. Or do you mean the time that I took my baby with 106 temperature to the ER and I waited 4 hours to be seen, even though I'm paying top notch incredibly high insurance prices? Oh, and what about the time the insurance company denied us coverage for a medical procedure? Hmmmmm what were you saying again? I love my library: social system. I love the public school my kids go to: social system. I love the road we ride on: social system. I love the service we get from our police and fire department: social system. I love the lights we get on the roads at night: social system. Do you prefer Vouchercare so you can SHOP around when you are too old to even dial the phone, let alone fight with insurance companies the way I do when I'm young/healthy and have the energy?

forthepeople Part of the Master Race. I don't think so.

yes exactly, for the people, when things are good it's because of the private industry, when things are bad, it's the government's fault. As for the bible lovers, a book that was written when there was hardly any education, women were treated like dogs and they thought the earth was flat...hmmm time to update to a fresh book maybe? Besides, if God forgives all sins, what's the incentive of being good? lol John Steward explains Romney and his thoughts the best! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4BfW2836Y&feature=share

@Sonia Prince - I understand. My wish, is that you did not have to experience these issues regarding health care coverage.

I love my library: social system. LOCAL
I love the public school my kids go to: social system. LOCAL
I love the road we ride on: social system. LOCAL (we'll at least in town)
I love the service we get from our police and fire department: social system. LOCAL
I love the lights we get on the roads at night: social system. LOCAL

So, which federal "social system" have you come to love?

Now, back to my original question; "This "Obamacare", is going to be run with same spectacular level of fiscal governance and efficiency as what other federally mandated program that we've all come to know and love?"

If being educated and compassionate towards my fellow human beings is considered "the master race," I don't know what to tell you. All I can say is that almost half of America is clinically stupid, revels in it, celebrates it, and a few puppeteers have got you all doing their dance. While they profit off of you, they tell you it's Jesus, they tell you it's America, they tell you it's fair because it's hard work. And it goes on and on, because there are a lot of sub-average people out there that just can't take five minutes of their day and read something. There are a lot of sub-average people out there that sing about Christ and act like selfish, aggressive stains on humanity.

You see, it was never about Christ. It was never about America. It was about me me me. The "me" party. That's why the Republicans got along so well with them.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel, and it's November 6. After all, there is another half of the country willing to move forward.

I forgot to provide facts and references that the right wing has sub-average intelligence.

http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html

All better now.

@ForThePeople - As a self proclaimed "educated" individual, please explain to the "clinically stupid" people, the progressive plan for paying off the national debt and "forwarding" us into prosperity, the likes of which this country has never experienced previously.

Joe, tax paid systems, local or not, is socialism to republicans. If you actually got your body out of this country and visited other developped nations around the world, you'd see that they cover everyone at a decent rate and YES, it works. No system is perfect but countries like Canada have seen the benefits of keeping it, especially after seeing Americans go private and so many families lose their shirts over greed and not get the health care they needed even when they had insurance. My sister had liver cancer in Canada, 8% chance of survival within 2 years. They operated. Gave her MRI's every three months. SHE NEVER GOT A BILL IN THE MAIL. She simply showed up, got her care, went back home to focus on healing. No fighting with insurance companies. My grandmother found out she had lung cancer at 79, got seen on Monday by the oncologyst.... I grew up there and had phenominal care! If you have a sore shoulder or knee, something non life threatening, you may have to wait 3-6 months but you are not going to die and you'll NEVER get a bill. The peace of mind,not having to fight for your coverage, not having to make payments to the doctor, radiologist, etc, and not having your budget affected when things are already tight: PRICELESS!!! Travel a little, you'll learn that there is way more than the US system out there.

Joe, Obama has already given that plan. Raise taxes on the upper class, reduce spending, do away with the Bush tax cuts, and eliminate corporate loopholes in the tax code.

@Sonia Prince - Thank you for your update on the wonderful Canadian healthcare system. I found the following article in Monday's "The Vancouver Sun" very interesting, "Canada's health care system can't cure itself" ( http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Canada+health+care+system+cure+itself/7288739/story.html ). Check it out if you have a few minutes, you might find it interesting.

Allow me to suggest that you read an oldie but goody, "How to Win Friends and Influence People". Your condescending and elitist remarks directed at me, such as "If you actually got your body out of this country..." and "Travel a little, you'll learn...", will not contribute to your efforts to win me over to your cause. For the record, I've been lucky enough to do both, alot.

Now, for the third time...back to my original question; "This "Obamacare", is going to be run with same spectacular level of fiscal governance and efficiency as what other federally mandated program that we've all come to know and love?"

Dear Joe, don't believe everything you read. Any pharmaceutical or insurance company trying to make a buck can pay anyone or write anything to sway their way. You can either take my word for it or not, looks like you know best even though you've never experienced it. top countries in the world w best healthcare...all socialized government run systems!! Here's joke: GOP said if Obama wins he's leaving the country, but he couldn't find a country to live in that didn't have socialized healthcare! http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/davidvsdavid/despite-faults-canada-health-care-system-remains-better-124415358.html http://www.businessinsider.com/best-healthcare-systems-in-the-world-2012-6?op=1

@Sonia Prince - For the 4th and last time...back to my original question; "This "Obamacare", is going to be run with same spectacular level of fiscal governance and efficiency as what other federally mandated program that we've all come to know and love?"

Just a reminder, $16,059,290,013,919 and climbing!

Dear Joe, it's not rocket science when many nations around the world have been doing this for more than 50 yrs. We've had social security and medicare running for years now. The Affordable Care Act has reduced fraud from the system and helped it run smoother and keep it sustainable. Here are detailed answers to all your questions. Sorry for the delay; this blog is getting too long to find posts, I'm saying goodbye, and as for the answers you were looking for, you're welcome. Here they are: http://www.healthreform.gov/affordablecareact_summary.html# Can't say the same for Bush when he decided it was a good idea to borrow from social security, money that was never his, but belonged to our seniors. http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/site_packages/ss_privatization/3202cuts_revealed.html

@Sonia Prince - Thank you for your response. You state; "We've had social security and medicare running for years now." You site Social Security and Medicare as federally mandated programs being run with a "spectacular level of fiscal governance and efficiency"? For a dose of "reality", let me say that word again, "reality", take a few minutes to read the Actuarial Publication posted on "The Official Website of the U.S. Social Security Administration", "The Trustees summary of the 2012 Social Security and Medicare Trustees Reports" ( http://www.ssa.gov/oact/TRSUM/tr12summary.pdf ). The document ought to start with the phrase, "Buyer Beware!"

@ForThePeople - "Obama has already given that plan." Rhetoric! Show us the numbers that prove his "plan" will work, and I use that term "plan" loosely.

The only "plan" Obama has, is to win votes from the uninformed by making them feel that all their problems will be solved if others "paid their fair share."

Keep on believing the lie. Nothing more than "fools gold."

"Quoting from a BLOG is DUMB!" -- News Flash

Tool.

I hope all democrats are reading the same ego-boosting nonsense that you are. It'll ring up so much confidence in Obama's reelection chances that most supporters will simply stay home on November 6 and insure an even grater margin of victory for Mitt.

@ Dumpy

These are facts. By all means call it all "ego-boosting nonsense" if it makes you feel better.

Mitt Romney is planning to accelerate the debt creation if elected.

Mitt Romney's foreign policy plan to "Ignore All Problems" in the Middle East gets applied to his opponent, Saul Alinsky would be proud of the Krout.

Did he refuse "To Describe Embassy Attack As Terrorism"?
Did you see this interview? And you came to THAT conclusion?
Par for the course, I guess.....

Fox news...ha ha ha ha ha... Fox News kept out of Canada because of too many lies. http://current.com/community/93843544_fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada.htm

They only way he could get anything done on Social Security is with the blessings of the obstructionist Republican Party. This is news that should help undecided see how bipartisan President Barack Obama is, and why they should vote for him.

Watts provides instructions on how to read his attached articles. Watts you recall is not from NH.

Keep dreaming! On November 6, that dream is going to turn into your nightmare.

Another insightful post from Dump Obama.

*YAWN*

@ Watts

Thanks for that. Great post.

I talked to a Ron Paul supporter this past weekend. Not surprisingly, he was no Obama fan, but he said both he and his wife would be voting for the President because of the total lack of respect Romney showed Ron Paul in the Republican primaries. "No way in hell we're voting for that jerk" he said.

Nobody likes Mitt. Nobody.

Obama 2012.

Excellent...

OMG that was phenomenal!!

Weird. Probably every mother on the planet educates themselves and reads parenting magazines and do research online, and naturally knows a lot about health, running a household well while your kids still accomplish A's and B's and you manage to clean the house, clothes washed, taxi your kids around to acitivities, work and have meals ready for the entire family. Yes, that does make her an expert. Do you realize how strange your posts appear because you are way off topic? How old are you? If you are a minor; probably not a good place for you to be.

You posted this before News Flash, don't you have anything fresh to google?

Michelle Obama Is The New Eva Peron With Her Lunch Standards

"But I think Michelle Obama is the new Eva Peron with her lunch standards," Levin said. "Like she knows something about this. She knows as much as I do. Eat carrots and celery. Yum, yum.

http://cnsnews.com/blog/david-james/levin-michelle-obama-new-eva-peron-her-lunch-standards-she-knows-much-i-do

Navy SEAL’s To Obama: We Are Not ‘Bumps In The Road’.

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/navy-seals/2012/09/25/former-navy-seal-s-obama-we-are-not-bumps-road#ixzz27XYKbkrj

"Quoting from a BLOG is DUMB!" -- News Flash

Tool.

As if News Flash couldn't get enough posts in, now he is posting replies to his own posts!

Flash, you are the poster boy for why most of this nation looks down their noses at the conservative extremist movement as being full of dopes and freaks.

@ David Victory - What's really dumb is belonging to the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund solely to help elect political candidates on the basis of their sexual preference. Why do you do that? Does that explain why you support Obama?

Dump Obama doesn't understand the words "marriage" and "civil rights". There are other sites for people like that. This site is for adult conversations.

@ Dumpy

I would never support any candidate based on sexual orientation. It's their views and (if applicable) voting history that matters.

Why can't you stay on topic? This thread is about Romney's standing in NH. The worse the news gets for Mittens, the crazier you anonymous internet cowards go.

Obama 2012.

missing link loser had to put in (if applicable) in its rambling because the love of his life never had a voting record.....unless ''present'' is ''applicable''.
So we can assume oblowhards voting record didn't matter to the missing link.
It must have been his marxist / socialist views , because it sure wasn't his voting record.
'' It's their views and (if applicable) voting history that matters.''

@ JIM

Actually, his voting record as a US Senator did factor in to my decision to support Obama in his run for President.

Thanks for showing NH what a modern Republican voter is. Keep up the good work.

Obama 2012.

dave missing link loser , what voting record , he voted present on everything , I guess in your book he gets a gold star just for showing up ...what a clown I swear your in love with this guy.
He could run over your mother, back up and hit her again and it would be OK with you, as long as obama was driving.... no problemo , right mom dont worry its only your arm , besides ,you have two of them stop complaining , we got obama care !! and it will make all your boo boos better.

Good work, JIM. Keep it up.

Obama 2012.

This is inappropriate as it is a personal attack and nothing else.

Jan - not a personal attack. But it helps explain the nature of the comments being posted by David Victory. Advocating the election of a political candidate based strictly on their sexual preference or orientation is not what you call responsible.

David Victory is the best. What have you been up to Dumpy with your spare time other than spreading lies on the internet and making unfounded attacks on everyone?

@ Dumpy

I really don't know WTF you're talking about. I'm part of tons of progressive groups. You've obviously done the cowardly anonymous internet troll thing and (like NF) tried to dig up as much personal information about me as possible. Why bother trying to defend your woefully inadequate candidate when you can try to worm into the personal life of the supporter of his opponent, right?

I strongly support President Obama and I strongly support gay rights. I'm proud of both.

GFY.

You believed the President was a messiah?

Comprehension isn't your strong suit.

Scott, We obvoiusly didn't grow up with the same mothers or educated role models! I'm sorry.

princess, it is obvious you and Scott had different mothers. Your mother was the govt and your educated role models were all takers in our society ,no givers or doers, just takers. People like you cant survive on your own with out the collective, you need the herd to survive. So move along little doggy

True the Vote is the group that goes to polls and challenges minorities right to vote. Some real Americans.......

Here's the real reason for voter ID suppression laws Jim: http://front.moveon.org/boom-sarah-silverman-blows-republican-voter-suppression-efforts-out-of-the-water-nsfw/#.UGI2edR4N0D.facebook

What? Sonia Prince doesn't just sit in her Mom's basement and post nonsense like Dumpy and Flash? She has actually gotten off her butt and gone down to volunteer at her local political office? Well that changes everything......

That's right Dumpy, proud of all the work we do and that's why we are on the winning team!

Libia !

@ Dumpy

Someone has been on the Google.

Dump, you're a craven pussy hiding behind a fake name on the internet. Be a man. Stick to the topics.

Yup and he's from a minority race and that makes Tea Partiers crazy! Or like Scott Brown and his campaign director and staffers: Rachel Maddow shares video of staffers and supporters of Senator Scott Brown mocking Native Americans with hoots and gestures as a means of taunting Brown's opponent, Elizabeth Warren.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/49172936#49172936

Liz is 1/32 Cherokee !

@ Mike

Exactly.

lieawatha has been caught in another lie, she is just like obama , a serial liar

rachel madcow BAWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, now there's some journalistic integrity for ya

Great, love to see that anti indigenous racism is still alive and well.
Is there a problem with Liz Warren being 1/32 Cherokee?

mohamed healey no racism here I can prove my Native American ancestry lieawatha cant

Well said. They will all eat those words November 7th!

Wow steve, a whole couple paragraphs with out calling any Tea Party members racist .......looks like someone needs to reorder an ofa bedazzle em kit so you can get a new deck of race cards.
Don't worry sunshine there is plenty of time left. If you order today USPS, you should have it in a week and then you can go right back to the only narrative you obunglers have.

sonia price if obungler is reelected ,we will all have to eat or words.....they will be the only food items we'll be able to afford in our obamanation

her ya go princess add this to your list of obunglers accomplishments ...nitwit

http://cowboybyte.com/12953/household-income-down-8-2-percent-since-obama-took-office-study-shows/

JIM - you're not supposed to be proving my points, but thanks. Keep up the good work.
By the way, you're starting to sound a little desperate - any reason for that? You should definitely take time off from posting to refill those prescriptions, they are more important than flailing at a lost cause. ;)
Me, I'm pretty happy and not at all bothered by your childish rants. Rubber and glue thing, you know?

Dear Jim, I obviously hit a nerve since you do like most kids, when found in a situation when they are on the opposite side of the facts and sinking with their defense, they begin to name call. The entire GOP party is in desperate mode. They can only character attack because they've got nothing to run on, policy wise.

I see the princess and the pea ...brain have teamed up to do a comedy act. Princess why do you think you hit a nerve ? Your moronic posts and commierat drivel dont rile me. I laugh at most of you and your partners posts and if I feel anything it is pity that people like you and steve have been fooled by the black night and the communists who have taken over the democrat party, your party allegiance is sad ,you cant see the forest through the trees. In your state of denial, you blindly follow a party that has been high jacked by the communist,socialist and marxist in America or in plain words that your simple minds can understand , you blindly stand in allegiance with everything that is un American and have become their tools. Some day when you grow up and the reality's of obamas America hit you it will be to late.

I agree Debra. I've actually met quite a few people with conservative/libertarian leanings who have been smart, articulate, people with whom I've agreed with on many (if not all) issues. We've had beers and actually good, thought-provoking discussions (during which I've learned stuff - a big bonus)! And while there are still a few GOP supporters here on Patch that can comment and debate the topic at hand, there's a core group of anonymous jackholes that can't stick to the issues, overpost, and treat the place like their personal sandbox to play in.

Try to ignore them. My guess is they'll be gone on 11/7.

Obama 2012.

Mitt has class and experience with world leaders? Sorry.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9431064/Mitt-Romneys-Olympics-gaffe-overshadows-visit-to-London.html

Mitt was a disaster - and he was meeting with ALLIES.

Don't forget Mitt Romney has a "shared heritage" wink wink with Anglo Europeans....

Obama???? Class???? Yeah, low class maybe.

I threw mine away - if I'd know it was a comedy I might have watched it. JIM, can I borrow your copy?

They have to cheat. What other hope does Mittens have?

Yup they know they have to cheat to win, today wasy proof....along with the 6 page ballot in FL because they are hoping the lines will be too long and less people will vote. Democratic volunteers are offering pizza while waiting for voters to scan their 6 page ballots! http://www.examiner.com/video/republican-voter-registration-fraud-exposed?fb_action_ids=10151221295280295&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

@ Sonia

Awesome! I hadn't heard of the pizza idea. That's great.

We need plenty of lawyers at the polls, too, to make sure everyone's right to vote is protected.

sorry steve, I passed my copy along for others to see .Deny it all you want but the facts are, no one really knows who fathered the abomination. Its mother was known to sleep around and there are naked pictures of her in the communist frank marshall davis's home, and again you can deny it, but when all three pictures are side by side ,obama Sr, obama Jr and frank marshall davis, obama has more of davis facial features than the man he claims is his father. If someone who knew nothing about obama was shown all three pictures and asked to pick out who they thought was obamas father they would pick davis hands down. We may never know the truth because obama is a serial liar and that is the reason these theories are out there, because nobody knows the truth and they are left to make assumptions. obamas mother might not have even known who the real father was and might have just said it was obama sr ,if you have any real evidence not just hearsay prove them wrong, till then I dont know who to believe the serial liar obama or the people trying to fill in the blanks.

princess, we all know it dont take much to confuse you democrats ...if your not smart enough o figure out the ballot, please stay home with your box of crayons and coloring book

@Jim. Yup, hit a nerve. You sound like my 12 yr old. Got no great thoughts? Resort to name calling, making up stories, and attacking someone's maman!

poor dave missing link loser, the ''pizza'' idea was hitlers ,who said. feed the people and you will have them eating out of your hand.

Boy Jimmy is really becoming unhinged, seems he is just another foil hatted crazy who has seen the writing on the wall, that President Barack Obama is going to win New Hampshire and a second term.
Instead of shaking your fist at the sky Jimmy, head out into the backyard and dig that bunker.

Jim, what planet are you on? "Pizza" you say Hitler? lol If I say "Apple", will you say color of blood?

JIM, you really, truly are a deluded individual. Fact is, Barack Obama is the President of the United States. He was born in Hawaii, Kenyan father, American mother. "Proof" is all over the place, but you and your birther friends won't accept anything that doesn't fit with your own insane conspiracy theories.
Your comments about Obama and others on this board are disgusting, mean, childish, bullying, lies, and that's just a summary. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I strongly suspect you have no shame. Read your posts. Don't take my opinion, print them out and show your kids and grandkids the things you write, and see how proud of you they are. Then go crawl back under your rock, and for Pete's sake try to get a life.
The only impression you are making here is a bad one.

Steve, Jim is just pals with people like the birthers and loopy Tea Partier leaders/supporters like Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, witchcraft Christine O'Donnel, Clint Eastwood and Michelle Bachman. They all have something in comon, they like attention and need the press; so they say dumb statements to catch headlines.

mohamed healey, what are you babbling about , what writing on the wall ? I never said I believed either story, obamas lies or that davis is obamas father, I said I dont know who to believe , the serial liar obama or the people trying to fill in the blanks about obamas lief (life) story. All I said was look at the three pics side by side ,Did you ? no you would rather call someone crazy . Dig a bunker ? for what , to hide from losers like you , I dont think so sunshine. If you have proof that their wrong about anything they said prove it ... but,you or anyone else wont, because you cant ,no one can, because no one actually knows the truth. Its all hearsay from both sides, but its obamas own fault for telling so many lies and half truths . Every ''truth'' obama has told about his life has been picked apart ,why , because its not written in stone and cant be proven to be the truth ,otherwise it wouldn't be in question.

Jim, the point is that "you don't know who to believe", it's kind of saying you don't know if the Enquirer is telling the truth or the Associated Press. Not to mention the name calling that shows that you may be under 18 since my kids do that when they get angry too. Maybe consider taking a class on how to pick reliable and reputable sources when googling.

aww whats da matter styevie from nh did I hurt your idy Biddy feelings about your man idol obama ? fact is, he is a lying POS.

You have really got Jimmy seeing stars now. He doesn't know which way is up.
Cry mercy Jimmy, save yourself, today just wan't your day.

princess, try to keep up dear , I didn't equate pizza to hitler , I equated obama to hitler, but you knew that. You just felt compelled to post something because I insulted your false god obama.
I know it must be hard for you to concentrate with all those screaming demobrats of yours running around screaming for free birth control and pizza, so pay attention, we wouldn't want you to miss out on any free stuff that might come your way

Poor Jimmy, doesn't know anything. Its good that you admit it though.

Mohamed healey , babbling like some punch drunk fighter gets knocked out in the first round and comes too thinking he won the fight !!
keep dreaming mikey, your a winner all right ... ...but not in a good way.

Say Sonia have you sent any money to Occupy NH this year?

NF your comment is inappropriate as it is nothing except a personal attack.

Absolutely not. It is not an attack nor is it inappropriate. It is a question.

What does the question have to do with this article?

News Flash, you crack me up! ha ha...which is why I think you are probably under 18.

jans new job is damage control . when ever any republican says anything to a commiecrat the SS sends out jan to make claims of personal attack and racism or sexism ...same ol bla bla bla from the communist propagandist on the left

Where did you copy these "facts" from?

Of course he copied from not very reputable sources....maybe FAUX news?

Dumpy World

Dumpy "facts"

With all this copy & paste, would it have killed you to copy & paste the url, so we'd know the source of the information?

@David Victory - You need a URL to know the truthfulness of these posted facts? You should be living in Egypt because you are in a constant state of "Denial." OK, its not original; but, you have to laugh!

GOP have to cheat to win, Obama has nothing to worry about lol Again today, more chearing! http://www.examiner.com/video/republican-voter-registration-fraud-exposed?fb_action_ids=10151221295280295&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

@ Joe

You're right. Who needs a source? After all, there's never any question of truthfulness when it comes to internet comment boards.

And it's not original OR funny, btw.

@ Victory - Nope, it wouldn't have killed me to post a url. But I'm not here to do your research for you. You know how to use Google. If you want verification of what I post do your own research. It's out there.

Dumpy love pretend first list

Joe, dave missing link loser needs a link for everything, if you tell him the sun is yellow and hot he wont believe you unless you add a link,as if that somehow makes it more believable, but dont blame him its not his fault ...he only has a 16th grade education

@JIM - I've noticed is that everytime someone with an opposing view provides a link, the information contained there-in is considered to "lack validity." You don't provide a link your statement has no invalidity! You do provide a link, still, no invalidity! You can't win.

Joe, what do you expect ,most of these obots are bottom feeders and are afraid they will lose their meal ticket when obama gets run out of town. If you tell dave missing link loser the national debt is 16 trillion dollars, its like, with out a link its not true.

If you make a claim, give us a link to verification to back it up - or it can, and should, automatically be regarded as bull$h!t by any skeptical reader.

And if you're copying & pasting from a site - but don't copy & paste the url while you're at it, it's because you know the site isn't reputable.

No link = no cred.

@ JIM

Poor JIM. Still resentful over his homeschooling.

A link DOES make a claim more believable, JIMbo. Then we can evaluate the source of the information.

Get it?

Go to unskewedpolls.com and get a reality check for yourself. The liberal fantasy world is about to crumble.

Oh Dumpy,
What happened to your polls?
Now your a poll conspiracist?

There's A New Polling Site That Conservatives Are Excited About — Here's Why You Should Totally Ignore It

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/unskewedpolls-2012-9#ixzz27lTvDv3V

2008 likely voters or 2010 likely voters.

And what about that information changes the fact that Obama is now polling 7 points ahead of Romney in NH? Victory obviously doesn't hide who he is supporting, any more than you do. It just happens that the facts are playing to Obama's advantage, so who cares if Victory supports Obama? if he didn't, that wouldn't change the validity of the facts that he is posting.

At least he is posing facts and not just posting absurd non-sequiturs a hundred times a day, as you do.

Wow, way to google, yes we are proud Democrats! ha ha!

WHAT! DAVID AND SONIA ARE DEMOCRATS? STOP THE PRESSES!

the religious intolerance in that statement is inappropriate at best but typical from "youall"on the left.

Read it, laughed -
UnSkewedPolls.com, brought to you by QStar - the RIGHT news at the RIGHT time. You talk about your biased lamestream media, ain't no more biased or lame than this tripe. And the website is put together by an 8 year old, which probably counts as an elder in that crowd.
I have a question for you - in what Universe does Fox News skew its polls to favor a Democrat? Sorry - democRAT.
DUMPY (and Mitt, for that matter), the first rule when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging.
BTW, in case you missed it, the 47% speech has probably finished Romney, but may save the Republican party in the long run - they are going to find someone other than Ayn Rand as a patron saint. FWIW, if the Republican party comes back to the middle I'll probably start voting for some of them again. People like DUMPY who are currently running the Republican party have kept me away for a few years now.

P.S. There is a gaping hole in the unskewed logic - if these polls were skewed like they say, they have always been skewed, so the historical results should never match the predictions of the polls - but they do, pretty closely.
Well maybe more than one - these polls only have one product - unbiased polls. When a poll is seen as being biased, it loses all it's value. So why would a polling company intentionally destroy the value of it's only product?
And if Romney really were up like you say, you wouldn't see him flailing around like a fish on a dock. There were 3 different Romneys on TV the other night - peddling 3 different messages. Trying to recover from self-inflicted wounds.
Anything is possible, Mitt could still end up winning. But by all reasonable measures, it doesn't look like he's got a chance. The '47% of Americans can't take responsibility for their own lives' remark is killing his campaign.

There's A New Polling Site That Conservatives Are Excited About — Here's Why You Should Totally Ignore It

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/unskewedpolls-2012-9#ixzz27lTvDv3V

We'll talk Nov. 7th Dump Obama, see how your big talk with nothing to run on works for you then; 'cause you know Romney isn't YOUR president, he can't help people in the 47%.

UnSkewedPolls.com is skewed. It makes no earthly sense that every single mainstream polling outfit (even Rasmussen, who as I mentioned before, has shown a substantial swing toward the Democrats) cares more about electing Obama than doing a good job at accurate polling, and then to say they're all working together and *nobody* has gone public is even more ridiculous. If anything, the conservative media is the one keeping *Romney* in the race by constantly ginning up resentment toward Obama to paper over their base's mistrust and lack of satisfaction in their candidate and intimidating mainstream media outlets into saying the election is close even when they know its not.

If you want to argue that the demographic screen the pollsters are using is wrong, go right ahead, but I warn you that the only group more excited about voting this year than Tea Party Conservatives are African Americans.

In the end, what people like Chambers don't realize is that they are acting not out of a position of strength, but of weakness. They might think they are doing their part to energize and mobilize their 1980 Secret Conservative Voter Army, but it really just looks like so much excuse making about why Romney is losing.

Low level goofballs will reference unskewedpolls on sites like this, but what I am waiting for is somebody from within the Romney/Ryan camps to make reference to this site. That would show the level of desperation from within the campaign.

Everybody already sees that level of desperation in supporters like Dumpy and News Flash, but I am more interested to see if that same level of desperation exists inside the Romney campaign.

If you do not know where weare is , the importance of your opinion is nowhere.

But losing by 10 overall
http://www.politico.com/p/2012-election/polls/president

But losing by 9 overall
http://www.politico.com/p/2012-election/polls/president

Funny, It was actually Reagan who started the free phone program. Socialist!

Even Republicans own skewed poller Rasmussen has Obama winning?

You need more than just the quote marks Dumpy.
"women (55-44) chose Obama"
"Blacks (87-12) and Hispanics (66-34) tilted heavily to the president"

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2012-09-25/story/president-obama-holds-slight-lead-over-mitt-romney-times-union-florida#ixzz27n6ZAJPZ

Says who?

It's the 49% who approve of this radical that scare me. But then again after seeing some of the Obama supporters that Howard Stern interviewed, I can understand.

Did you see Howard say he's voting for Obama? I bet you did...

And they're all skewed in Obama's favor. What do you expect?

Even the Republican ones? Why are they skewed in President Barack Obama's favor?

I think that the riot is watching somebody like yourself trying to construct an alternate reality from the actual reality that the rest of us live in. Even Fox has Obama up over Romney by one point on who would better handle the economy and Obama up by 5 over all amongst likely voters.

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/election/2012/09/28/obama-romney-tied-on-economy-in-fox-poll/

So can you stretch your fantasy world out far enough to call Fox News as being biased toward Democrats?

Trust me, there are a lot of people laughing when they read your posts, but they are laughing at you, not with you.

@Watts - Do some research before you post. You just might learn something.

@Watts - straight from Rasmussen:

Forty-three percent (43%) of voters believe a victory for Romney and the Republicans would lead to a stronger economy next year. Thirty-four percent (34%) believe that would happen with an Obama victory and Democratic control of Congress.

Don't believe it? Go argue with Scott.

"Straight from Rasmussen" says it all. Rassmussen is the one outlier poll (read: no other respected polling company is close to what they are reporting) and they have a history of leaning right and also for being wrong.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

So do your own research. We have seen that Rassmusen reports right leaning results, based on shortcut methodologies, and come up incorrect on voting day.

Link?

God, I wish that we could bet some real monney, because you are making a fool's prediction. Just look at intrade's odds for the election...

Obama win: 79%: http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

Romney win: 20.6%: http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743475

Now this is an international betting site, that has no motivation to be off on their figures, because they are just there to make money.

How many whacks with the bat of reality is it going to take before you realize that Romney is toast? It's already over. Just find a new hobby.

Costs of Illegal Immigration to State Match Amount of the Budget Deficit

http://www.capsweb.org/content.php?id=513&menu_id=8

Watts resume.

watts, perhaps if we had a real president you might have some ''real monney'' to bet with , instead of just having the obamabucks check the goberment sends you each month

Wow Dump! Impressed that you actually know that many black people! And you know that many Jewish people? Double shock!! Good for you buddy! lol

That's fabulous Dump, that means Obama will be a second term President and, like Roosevelt, who was given 4 terms by the American people to clean up the great depressions, Americans are intelligent enough to know that 4 yrs is not enough the clean up a Replublican mess and spiralling out of control 2nd depression! Yippeee!! Can't wait!

@Sonia Prince - I realize you and Wingnut Victory are in the Obama camp. But c'mon, at least post some rationale for supporting that con artist. Four years and the teleprompter kid hasn't cleaned up anything except his golf game. The mess has gotten dirtier, not cleaner. He's a failure from start to finish. He lied about everything before he took office and he's continued to lie for the past 4 years. The Obama Smoke & Mirrors Show rolls on sucking in the ignorant and politically naive.

actually D O, obamas mindless entitlement lemmings ,like the boot lickers who carry his water on this site are the true danger to America, with out these cult followers the little hittler wannabe would be nothing , he would be just another angry black panther scumbag, sucking off society for all its worth because whitey owes him a living for all his shortcomings.

I mentioned it in another thread, but Dumpy, "just JIM" and News Fish are all part of the psychotically engaged...

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/419556/september-27-2012/-skewed--presidential-polls

...and there is the proof.

Looks like Watts (CA) has been eating a lot of Obama Sandwiches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9R5qBg8sI

As they say......."Good riddance to bad rubbish." When the going gets tough, the libs run away. Can't say as though I blame them. They have nothing to stand on, nothing to defend and nothing to offer.

Only 38% according to that web site. Not very good.

Nice attempt to mislead anybody who may not have bothered to click on the link. here is the actual breakdown...

Promise Kept 192 (38%)
Compromise 75 (15%)
Promise Broken 85 (17%)
Stalled 46 (9%)
In the Works 108 (21%)
Not yet rated 2 (0%)

Only 17% were broken and the rest have either happened, happened with compromise with Republicans or have been stalled or delayed because of Republicans.

The truth is out there and that is why even congressional hopes for Republicans are starting to unravel.

Obama is a complete failure. People are not better off in this country than they were four years ago. If you think they are, you're delusional. People are in poorer shape than they were four years ago. Incomes have declined, unemployment has risen, costs of essentials have risen, we're engaged in more foreign conflicts than we were four years ago, the country's credit rating has dropped twice, national debt has skyrocketed, municipalities and states are going bankrupt and the liberals think these conditions exemplify a great job done by Obama. Bunch of ignorant fools.

192 promises is more than enough. Especially for the millions who needed health care, the soldiers who wanted out of wars and their families, the gay communinity that wanted to serve their country (don't ask, don't tell), he did what he promised and this is why we elected him! Show me some stats on promises kept by George Bush? I got some: I promise to start wars so my buddies at Halliburton and BOE can make millions; I promise to destroy the surplus that was handed to me by Bill Clinton, I promise to borrow 1 billion a day from China to pay for 2 wars, I promise to never be able to speak in public like a person who was educated, or learned how to read and write.

The important promises all became Lies.

C Barry add nothing to the conversation.

Mike Healy has never had a conversation worth anything on Patch. SAD

News Flash, I find it one of the funniest comments that you posted about Mike, because you have never had a conversation worth anything on Patch. Just white noise nonsense.

OMG Obama Must Go

Oh Bob, you disappoint me! News Flash, I find it one of the funniest comments that you posted about Mike, because you have never had a conversation worth anything on Patch. Just white noise nonsense.